tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post8190358025946555520..comments2023-10-10T11:50:55.402+00:00Comments on Marcus Wood: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-64617561935871325842008-08-31T16:13:00.000+00:002008-08-31T16:13:00.000+00:00Perhaps its because they are so utterly invisible ...Perhaps its because they are so utterly invisible that the void is being filled by poor Mr Hellyer, who judging by the hurt tone on his own blog seems to have realised at last that he has been used as a bit of a stalking horse by Localbloke in leu of having any supporters of his own prepared to do anything.<BR/><BR/>The fact is the opposition aren't opposing - they haven't done a damn thing since last May.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-16566519712148634742008-08-31T08:07:00.000+00:002008-08-31T08:07:00.000+00:00Stocks? Done anything? Come on - name just three t...Stocks? Done anything? Come on - name just three things. <BR/><BR/>You're having a laugh. Them Lib Dems, they be invisible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-47296653430932164872008-08-30T10:48:00.000+00:002008-08-30T10:48:00.000+00:00Ellacombe voter is being ironic there, I think. £5...Ellacombe voter is being ironic there, I think. <BR/><BR/>£50 grand as mayor might not be quite as much wedge as our Brian is used to but any port in a storm -and he still has his big MP's pension to come as well. <BR/><BR/>"Mr Bean" is clearly going to hand Torbay to Mr Wood on a plate so a Panglosss Vs Localbloke for mayor contest in 2011 looks a banker to me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-18955459530366580522008-08-29T19:55:00.000+00:002008-08-29T19:55:00.000+00:00Pangloss v Brian LocalBloke ? My money would be on...Pangloss v Brian LocalBloke ? My money would be on the latter, but you can't expect him to be mayor and MP !!!<BR/><BR/>PS : JPFC can you enlighten me as to Mr. Parrott's 'achievements' ? And, when has he stood up to Bye / Lewis / Carroll and challenged any major decision taken?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-19659180900937299232008-08-29T19:26:00.000+00:002008-08-29T19:26:00.000+00:00Now that is some very naughty and pointless kite-f...Now that is some very naughty and pointless kite-flying Mr Wood.<BR/><BR/>You know perfectly well that some Lib Dems are trying to keep the job of 'Lib Dem prospective mayoral candidate' open until after the result of the next General Election.<BR/><BR/>And you know why.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-60661399571023952822008-08-29T19:15:00.000+00:002008-08-29T19:15:00.000+00:00MHFC says "If you live in a make-believe world of ...MHFC says "If you live in a make-believe world of 'the mayor is popular' then your judgment is seriously flawed" <BR/><BR/>It's not a question of my judgement, its a point of fact. Your Mr Hellyer is self appointed and has never put his opinions to the test of a real vote by real residents.<BR/><BR/>It's easy to imagine that because a few people in the pub or on a blog agree with you that you are in the majority.<BR/><BR/>The mayor *did* stand for office and *was* elected by the majority and then after eighteen months in office residents voted again - overwhelmingly to give him overall control of the town hall.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore as part of my own campaign we are collecting voting intentions on a daily basis, not vague offers of support from a self selecting survey but door to door cold calling and postal surveying of tens of thousands of Torbay residents and I assure you that in contrast to what you may wish for, Mr Bye enjoys the support of an even bigger majority now than in either May 2007 when the council got elected or October 2005 when he was originally voted in.<BR/><BR/>Of course its possible that might change by 2011 but as someone who has seen the polling I am certain that if there was an election tomorrow he would win a second term with an increased majority - in any case who would oppose him? <BR/><BR/>So far none of the other parties have found anyone prepared to take him on have they?Marcus Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13540289778100132614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-23812915086249716432008-08-29T18:41:00.000+00:002008-08-29T18:41:00.000+00:00Do you know, I wouldn't stand for public offic...Do you know, I wouldn't stand for public office in Torbay for all the tea in China. As an Ellacombe resident, I find Julien Parrott to be a decent, honourable person who wants only to try and make Ellacombe and the Bay a better place. No doubt, many councillors - Tory, Liberal Democrat, whatever - are the same, although I do concede that there have been some right rum coves as councillors in Torbay over the past few years. <BR/><BR/>Mr Parrott has actually done quite a lot for Ellacombe from where I'm sitting. And to say he has never, as Overview & Scrutiny, challenged the Tories, shows just how little attention Ellacombe Voter has been paying! And as for the Tories turning on their own, well, I rather suspect more than a couple of them wish they'd had the backbone to stand as independents!<BR/><BR/>The unbelievable spite and venom directed at people in public office for no other reason than they dare to stick their heads above the parapet makes me ashamed to be British these days. <BR/><BR/>You may say that if you can't stand the heat, you should get out of the kitchen. I say you're all a bunch of sad gits, and Torbay is the worse for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-71376917385779237282008-08-29T15:46:00.000+00:002008-08-29T15:46:00.000+00:00Most 'Independents' turn out to be Tories. The evi...Most 'Independents' turn out to be Tories. The evidence to the contrary with Parrott is hard to find - card carrying party member or not.<BR/><BR/>Good at photo-ops and self-opinionated but does nowt for Ellacombe. Ditto the mayor but his remit is baywide. Get rid of both of them !<BR/><BR/>His oppo, Cindy Stocks, is an excellent ward councillor - and I'm no Lib Dem. Repeat I'm not a Lib Dem. <BR/><BR/>This blog justifies itself by writing off all critics as Lib Dems. There's an increasing number of Tories being put off by Bye - beware Marcus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-17799351633105593812008-08-29T15:40:00.000+00:002008-08-29T15:40:00.000+00:00Mr Parrott is an apologist / supporter of the Tory...Mr Parrott is an apologist / supporter of the Tory regime at the Town Hall. That he doesn't carry a party card is irrelevant - he's in the mayor's back pocket and, as far as I can tell, as head of Overview and Scrutiny has never posed any meaningful challenge to any of Bye's proposals. Voted in by the Tories to head of O+S and supports them all the way. A puppet for sure.<BR/><BR/>If you live in a make-believe world of 'the mayor is popular' then your judgment is seriously flawed once more.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-10911068883208985452008-08-27T18:01:00.000+00:002008-08-27T18:01:00.000+00:00Bev: frankly, NO.Bev: frankly, NO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-68240611937443296122008-08-27T12:56:00.000+00:002008-08-27T12:56:00.000+00:00Is it fair that someone like Mr Mark Hellyer can c...Is it fair that someone like Mr Mark Hellyer can complain about a councillor and expect a full enquiry to be conducted (at taxpayers expense) when he is not subject to the same rules?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-15058987578141117942008-08-27T09:40:00.000+00:002008-08-27T09:40:00.000+00:00I'd have to be be pretty desperate before I'd take...I'd have to be be pretty desperate before I'd take advice from the Mark Hellyer Fan Club about what to write to the Herald about!<BR/><BR/>As it happens we are distributing my latest newspaper right now to 40,000 homes across Torbay with a front page story all about my support for the Mayor. <BR/><BR/>I think what people have wanted for a long time is a decisive and determined council administration and at last that is what we have. <BR/><BR/>For years the Left kept convincing themselves that Thatcher was hated and unpopular but election after election she enjoyed massive support.Marcus Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13540289778100132614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-8657507676807754592008-08-27T08:55:00.000+00:002008-08-27T08:55:00.000+00:00I think 'Anon at 3.14pm' has it about right: anyon...I think 'Anon at 3.14pm' has it about right: anyone else received one of Hellyer's around-10,000-word-long-tending-towards-the-unpleasant-emails?!! <BR/><BR/>This would be funny if he didn't waste so much public time and money.<BR/><BR/>On the issue of independence, I believe Parrott when he claims to be so: he says he's never been a member of any party (although I'm told he was approached by two parties prior to the last local elections). His support for the mayoral model is also consistent. On the other hand, we all know exactly where Hellyer's coming from.<BR/><BR/>MHFC (for God's sake, can there BE such a thing?!! A libdem in any case, as that particular sobriquet for Parrott has been used in the past by their about-to-be-usurped leader, Darling) needs to wise up: this place has been left to rack and ruin by the awful libdems. The Tories won't be able to progress without annoying a few people. Good thing, too. <BR/><BR/>As you know, you can't make an omelette without breaking eggs. Such a laugh that, at the moment, most of those eggs are on Hellyer's face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-85688659699547556962008-08-26T20:04:00.000+00:002008-08-26T20:04:00.000+00:00So when will your fulsome letter of support for By...So when will your fulsome letter of support for Bye and co be on it's way to the HE. The wider readership of that journal needs to know your views rather than the few dozen who read your musings on here - most of whom appear to be Tories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-24615384451537074872008-08-26T16:46:00.000+00:002008-08-26T16:46:00.000+00:00I suspect Mr Parrott is as Conservative as Mr Hell...I suspect Mr Parrott is as Conservative as Mr Hellyer is Lib Dem i.e he has some sympathy but is not in total agreement and therefore prefers to remain independent.<BR/><BR/>You go on about how unpopular the Tory adminstration is but I think you are seriously muddling up the volume of noise with the numbers involved. There are some very loud protesters across Torbay resolutely opposed to anything Nick Bye does. These people seem to prefer to hide behind alias' or populate fictional places like Westphalia-on-sea rather than actually stand for election anywhere; and judging by the turnout on the anti mayoral website it's not hard to see why - they are in a tiny minority.<BR/><BR/>I fully support the Mayor and I am convinced that he enjoys the substantial support of the vast majority, unlike Mr Hellyer I have some evidence to back up my opinion. Not only was Mr Bye backed in a resounding election just last year which filled the council with Conservative colleagues (who are now getting on with the job of doing that they said they would do) but I have just completed a bay wide survey where we have received just under 3,000 detailed replies to a whole range of questions about local politics. <BR/><BR/>There is a lot of dissatisfaction with Torbay, lots of complaints against drunks, seagull mess, litter, crime and the state of the roads and facilities but only two replies have laid this at the door of our mayor; in general while the rest want him to do more they accept that he is trying to improve the place and that these problems result from years of decline and that they won't be fixed overnight.<BR/><BR/>At least, unlike your Mr Hellyer both Mr Bye and Mr Parrott had the balls to stand up and be counted, they had the guts not to just sit around complaining on an anonymous website but to try and do something about the state of the place.<BR/><BR/>The electorate are not as dumb as some of the anti-mayoral campaigners seem to imagine.Marcus Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13540289778100132614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-88252183006561563252008-08-26T15:50:00.000+00:002008-08-26T15:50:00.000+00:00told to F--- off by the Tories own lackey the CONd...told to F--- off by the Tories own lackey the CONdependent councillor for Ellacombe : a major apologist for the awful Tory trio of Bye / Carroll / Lewis. 'Big up' for Mr Hellyer - saying what most of us (including many Tories) think of this Tory administration at the Town Hall. Let us not forget Marcus' support for Bye. Mind, gone a bit quiet in your public support of the dreadful mayor haven't you Marcus ?<BR/><BR/>Lets see one of your ubiquitous letters to the HE in support of him Marcus - or maybe you are trying to distance yourself from this egocentric buffoon ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-60756693479693232902008-08-26T15:18:00.000+00:002008-08-26T15:18:00.000+00:00Mr Hellyer is so up himself he clearly thinks it i...Mr Hellyer is so up himself he clearly thinks it is 'unethical' to disagree with him on anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6385595.post-61014013218080102332008-08-26T15:14:00.000+00:002008-08-26T15:14:00.000+00:00Whats really funny is the Hellyer goes on and on a...Whats really funny is the Hellyer goes on and on about politicians spouting the party line and not thinking for themselves and the when he is in effect told to f*** off by one who does think for himself he has a hissy fit about it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com